Langer to Kerkol: - provokes me

– St. in Trondheim last week. said Health Minister Ingvild Kjerkol (Ap) from the stage at Olav’s hospital.

It made Kjell Egil Djosevic, a nurse at Stavanger University Hospital for more than 40 years, see red. A records In a Facebook post that has been shared 6,500 times at the time of writing, an angry Djosevic offers sarcastic advice to the health minister.

A reason to be afraid

– It is incredibly provocative for the Minister to say that we need to consider what we can do less about. We’re going full steam ahead here, Djosevic says, Kergol’s statement infuriates me Stavanger AftenbladHe was the first to mention the case.

– I’m almost at a loss for words, he says to Dagbladet.

Demanding situation: - I wish I was standing here today with promises of more money and better times. But I have to be honest that the dire situation we're in now reduces the room for maneuver in hospitals, Health Minister Ingwil Kerkol (AP) said in his hospital speech last week. Photo: Håkon Mosvold Larsen / NTB — Demanding situation: – I wish I was standing here today with promises of more money and better times. But I have to be honest that the dire situation we’re in now reduces the room for maneuver in hospitals, Health Minister Ingwil Kerkol (AP) said in his hospital speech last week. Photo: Håkon Mosvold Larsen / NTB
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– Meaningless

Josevic believes that talk from above shows a lack of respect.

– We work a lot in the health care system in Norwegian hospitals, nursing homes or primary health care. There are many who need our help, but we are not given the resources we need. It makes no sense for the Minister of Health to say that we have to see now what not to do later.

In a Facebook post, he sarcastically suggests various treatments that can be cut.

End at 70: In a post on Facebook, Kjell Egil Tjosvik sarcastically argues that treatment should end at age 70. - Within a year, Norway will save a lot, he writes. Photo: Private — End at 70: In a post on Facebook, Kjell Egil Tjosvik sarcastically argues that treatment should end at age 70. – Within a year, Norway will save a lot, he writes. Photo: Private
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“Women with prolapse do not need treatment. We can avoid exacerbations of COPD, and we can reduce prosthetic surgery. Births in Hell’s Sour-Ost can be sent to Oda. There they have midwives and an excellent gynecologist who is also a vet. What other treatment can be discontinued? “Finding the right ones is very difficult,” he writes.

So Djosevic comes up with a somewhat drastic proposal.

“We have set a red line in 70 years. We allow everyone above to travel in their own sea without pills, surgeries and home care. In a year’s time, Norway will save a lot. Many people will not join until 2024. Home care will increase and countless healthcare workers will be laid off”.

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– Terrible

Tjosevik believes that the Norwegian healthcare system operates like a shop, with the aim of getting patients out of hospital quickly and accepting new ones.

– Many are not kept in hospital long enough to have a chance to recover before being discharged home or to a health centre, as there is not enough expertise or staff to do this work.

– The patient arrives one day and is sent the next day. Then they can come back on the third day, wearing the same patient shirt they left the day before. It’s terrible, he says.

– Didn’t tell him that

– No preference

Now is the time to step up, he believes.

– We have such a large influx of patients that we cannot cope with it. Due to lack of resources, there are messages to come to work at all hours of the day. If someone is awake at twelve o’clock in the night, the message may come. “Can someone come and help us?”.

And it will get worse, says Djosevic.

– The Norwegian healthcare system is on the verge of collapse. The aging wave has just begun and it will only get worse if we don’t do something about it. Not everything can be solved by immediate measures, it will be a process. But there must be an option for that, which I don’t realize exists today.

ABC Clinic is closed: – Madness!

– Absolutely necessary

Dagbladet asked Health Minister Ingvild Kjerkol (Ap) what he thought of what Tjosevik was saying.

– As Chief Executive of the Health and Care Service, I have great respect for the professionals who make it up. I was also clear about this in the speech. Retaining specialists – and recruiting more – is absolutely essential to protecting and strengthening our collective health care. We need to ensure that professionals can use their skills properly – and where they are needed.

– What will it be like when the wave of the elderly arrives in full force, when information has already been given about the difficult conditions in the health care system?

– It’s the public’s responsibility, and I want to be involved in getting the solutions we need. We need a broad team to move forward – politically as well. If we don’t do something now, it’s only going to get worse, says Gergol.

The government will prioritize four initiatives:

1: Professionals and Capacity: – Gergol says that they should have time to do the work they are passionate about and influence their day-to-day work.

2: Volunteers and local communities are given the best opportunity to contribute to the neighborhood.

3: An opportunity for those willing and able to live safely at home for longer periods of time. – At the same time, we want to make sure there are enough places for people who need a place in the nursing home, says Kerkol.

4: Give priority to relatives: – They should be seen and heard. When dealing with elderly people, we need to have a holistic approach and we also need relatives and volunteers. This is a challenge that cannot be solved in health and care services alone. We need to think anew and together.

– Cuts should be considered

However, it is necessary to set tough priorities now because of the demanding times we face, the health minister believes.

– We must be clear that we cannot do everything. That’s why I asked health departments to look at what they could do less of.

Among other things, the amount of laboratory and X-ray services used should be examined to see how this overuse can be reduced, in addition to see which treatment methods can be reduced with little benefit.

Why is it so difficult?

– Great understanding

When asked if enough has been done to change the situation in the health system, Kejrikol replied that the budget for 2023 would have been a solid increase in normal times.

– But here, as in other sectors, restructuring and measures are necessary to cope with price and wage growth.

– At the same time, I understand very well that the situation is demanding for employees and will follow the situation closely. It is important that hospitals do their best to avoid overloading and maintain a good working environment. Protecting patient safety is also important.